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campthewestcoast 05-09-2011 01:04 AM

best tire ?
 
Which is best for trailer tires, radial or bias ply?

PopRichie77 05-09-2011 06:49 AM

Can't say which is best, I do think that nylon bias tires will take speeds over 65 better than radial tires.
People say don't buy China made tires but the new Good Year ST trailer tires are made in China. Check the manufactures web site. The new 4ply radials now have and extra ply of nylon over the steel belts, probably to stop the steel belts from breaking, I had many in the past that this happened to although non went flat or blew out. The Good Years on my 2209 with the extra nylon ply now have over 7,000 miles and no problems. I had Good Years in the past that failed with less millage than this. Best advice is keep the tires inflated to the max spec on the tire and drive at 65 or under.
Here is some usefull information
https://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?id=2355013

captbobster 05-22-2011 04:15 AM

Tire size upgrade to 225s
 
Has anyone upgraded to the 225s instead of the 205s with new wider wheels? Was thinking of doing this just to have a little more tire capacity so they're not running at the limit.

captbobster 05-22-2011 05:16 AM

Jack
 
What jack is everyone using for tire changing? I have a 2807 and was wondering scissor or hydraulic.

PopRichie77 05-22-2011 06:39 AM

If you go to a larger size just be sure it will fit between the shirting and the brake drum. I would test one first before buying all 4.
As for the jack it doesn't matter which you use, just be sure to place the jack where the manual says. Trailer frames are light an springy, jacking to far back on the frame on the door side will jam the lower door and may cause damage.

retiredcamper47 05-22-2011 01:22 PM

I don't use a jack. I use a "Trailer-Aid". It is like a large rubber chock that you back or pull the non flat tire up on. This elevates the flat tire enough so that you can change it with no problems. Just have to remember to loosen the lug nuts on the flat before elevating it. Using this, you don't have to worry where to place a jack or is the trailer high enough. Use it once and it has paid for itself. This is truly a no muss, no fuss item for the trailer.

Bob

Bob Sass 05-22-2011 02:13 PM

Captbobster, I agree with these answers and fully endorse the Traileraid for my choice of jacking items. I even bought the Traileraid plus for the additional 1 inch of height when doing the job, worked great when I practiced in the driveway. I bought mine off Amazon.com for $40.00 with free shipping earlier this month. I have to thank my fellow forum members for the questions asked and good advise I have gotten from reading their responses. Great bunch of folks.

captbobster 05-22-2011 05:16 PM

Jack
 
Thanks guys, didn't even think of the Trailer Aid, this is my first tandem axle and it never came to mind. I just order one of the plus models from Amazon no tax no shipping for $41, can't beat it for simplicity and ease.

captbobster 05-22-2011 05:17 PM

jack
 
By the way, I love this forum and the helpfulness of everyone. Hope I can contribute in the future.

JMDoering 05-22-2011 05:41 PM

Capt,

The Trailer-Aid ramp works really well if your rotating tires, or have a single flat. These are fairly new to the market, and I now take one along on our road trips.

Years ago, long before the Trailer-Aid, I got in the habit of carrying a hydraulic scissor jack and scraps of 2 X 6 's in case we ever had a trailer flat. My old habits are hard to break and I still carry the stuff... thank goodness, because last fall I had a double flat (same side) and would not have been able to put the spare on without the jack. The Trailer-Aid ramp will not raise the trailer high enough (to put a spare on the other wheel) if you only have a rim to drive onto it. I know, because I tried.

Trailer-Aid ramps are VERY convenient, but don't think for a second that they are a substitute for a real jack.

Jim

captbobster 05-23-2011 04:16 AM

I already have a small hydraulic, think I'll carry it for emergencies.

captbobster 05-27-2011 05:00 PM

Well after having to fight my small floor jack to check the wheel bearings. I found a 12 ton bottle jack on sale at Sears for $30, so now I have the best of both worlds.

captbobster 05-27-2011 07:06 PM

Has anyone tried the 10# extra theory that Goodyear has on their Marathon tires and also in the tire literature on the library. I know it is not suppose to increase your weight carrying capability but should help with heat at speed. I also noticed that if you go from the 205s to the 225s in the C range that you do get increased load capacity with the increase in pressure up to 60#. That sounds like a good alternative to the 205s. Any thoughts?

MStoneham 07-07-2011 08:17 AM

Tire Life
 
Well we proved the 5 year tire life theory yesterday. While returning from our July 4 camping trip to First Landing State Park in Virginia Beach, we had the right front tire come apart at 60 mph.

I have always been careful to inspect my tires and check pressure before starting on any trip. I checked the tires before starting out yesterday morning and saw no visible signs of problems. We had only gone about 20 mikes.

Luckily, the remaing tire on the right side supported the trailer and allowed us to safely stop and get off the interstate just before entering the Hampton Roads Tunnel.

We have a 2007 Classic 28C manufactured in 2006 which came with Marathon tires. Needless to say, all tires have now been replaced.

PaulS 07-07-2011 02:41 PM

I have a ramp, wrenches and WD-40 and a few odds and ends in both campers at all times . only comes out for tire changes.

JIM L 07-07-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MStoneham (Post 7293)
Well we proved the 5 year tire life theory yesterday. While returning from our July 4 camping trip to First Landing State Park in Virginia Beach, we had the right front tire come apart at 60 mph.

I have always been careful to inspect my tires and check pressure before starting on any trip. I checked the tires before starting out yesterday morning and saw no visible signs of problems. We had only gone about 20 mikes.

Luckily, the remaing tire on the right side supported the trailer and allowed us to safely stop and get off the interstate just before entering the Hampton Roads Tunnel.

We have a 2007 Classic 28C manufactured in 2006 which came with Marathon tires. Needless to say, all tires have now been replaced.

HI Mike We were down at the Cape Henry/ Ft Story Inn and just got back yesterday. Must have been only about a mile or two from you. Sorry to hear about the tire. Lets get together soon.

Richard 07-16-2011 05:00 PM

Tire problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MStoneham (Post 7293)
Well we proved the 5 year tire life theory yesterday. While returning from our July 4 camping trip to First Landing State Park in Virginia Beach, we had the right front tire come apart at 60 mph.

I have always been careful to inspect my tires and check pressure before starting on any trip. I checked the tires before starting out yesterday morning and saw no visible signs of problems. We had only gone about 20 mikes.

Luckily, the remaing tire on the right side supported the trailer and allowed us to safely stop and get off the interstate just before entering the Hampton Roads Tunnel.

We have a 2007 Classic 28C manufactured in 2006 which came with Marathon tires. Needless to say, all tires have now been replaced.

Hi Mike, I guess we were a little more fortunate than you. Two weeks ago we completed a trip with the two grand children, from San Antonio, Tx. to Disney in Florida.
We have a 2003, 27' Towlite, which we bought used that still had original tires. I threw the tred from the left rear just after getting to Florida, replaced it with the original stock spare. On the way home I threw tred from the same left rear (spare) about thirty miles from home. Needless to say, I now have five new tires installed on the Hi Lo.
I do wish there was some sort of guard between the left rear tire and the sewer dump valves, fortunately the only damage I sustained was a broken handle on the black water drain valve, and a bent trim piece.

PopRichie77 07-16-2011 07:31 PM

You were lucky when mine threw the tread, before it came off completely it removed all the valves and most of the piping, damaged the floor and the metal box under the tub. The tire was less than 3 years old and was properly inflated.

captbobster 08-02-2011 07:20 AM

6 yr limit
 
Hi Mike, I also have the same trailer as you and was towing from Florida to Ohio on our first trip, had checked all tires before we left for pressure and signs of wear. We had 2 2006 and 2 2009 tires on the trailer, all Marathons and all looked new, guess that should have told me something. The left rear tire blew without warning and when I inspected it the steel belts were sticking through the tread and the rubber nibs were still on the tires. Needless to say, I put 4 new Towmaster on and have been fine for the rest of the trip. I would say replace your tires every 4 yrs whether they look like they need it or not. Lesson Learned!
Bob
PS I was only cruising at 60

NDgent 08-02-2011 01:06 PM

For a good document on Trailer Tire Facts - Discount Tire, they recommend replacing tires after 3 to 5 year or 5,000 to 12,000 miles. They also state that trailer tires are NOT expected to wear out, but rather have a service life and should be replaced when those parameters are met!


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