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Old 03-18-2010, 01:20 PM
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I have an 89 hilo, 20ft. The last time I put it down it went down without issue. It also went up fine. Now it will not go down. The red light is not coming on. I pulled the cable and it did not move. All of the lights are on and working in the camper. It is also plugged into land power. Is there anything that would keep the lifting/lowering switch from getting power when the lights are on?

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Old 03-18-2010, 03:54 PM
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Eric,

Look on the post below yours titled "no lift on 12volts". It may be a similar situation of the breaker or the connections on the pump, solenoid, battery area.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:42 PM
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I have an 89 hilo, 20ft. The last time I put it down it went down without issue. It also went up fine. Now it will not go down. The red light is not coming on. I pulled the cable and it did not move. All of the lights are on and working in the camper. It is also plugged into land power. Is there anything that would keep the lifting/lowering switch from getting power when the lights are on?

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I know this info has been prevesly posted but the problem is probley the braker between the battery and and the lift switch.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:22 PM
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Hello! We are excited to find your forum.
We bought a 1989 hi lo 35í, triple-axle trailer at a great price. We are picking it up in about 2 weeks. It is in the up position and was hauled to the dealer like this. After we have been researching your site, we have discovered to not pull it in the up position AND we are not sure where to start.
The trailer has been up for a while.

Any advise would be appreciated.

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Old 03-22-2010, 10:29 AM
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Eric and Topper -

It seems the most common cause of the trailer either not going up or down is a lack of power to the pump motor. The most common cause of this is the breaker (or fuse on older models) between the battery and the lift switch.

Here is a link to a post that covers this issue, read it all and be sure to look at the pictures of the breaker that is in one of the posts there.

No lift on 12V

Let us know if you need more help on this.

Topper, after you get the trailer to raise you will be able to pull and hold the release cable, then you will be able to lower it. The procedure is in the owners manual and if you need one you can download it from our library here, Owners Manual: 2004 Hi-Lo , don't worry about the year model, they all work the same.


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Old 03-23-2010, 07:01 PM
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Neal and Bev,

is it possible that it is locked up permanently because there is THICK CAULKING all around where bottom and top come together? Thanks!!

TOPPER
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Neal and Bev,

is it possible that it is locked up permanently because there is THICK CAULKING all around where bottom and top come together? Thanks!!

TOPPER
Wow, that makes a fella think! Let me get a bit more information from you.

When you are lifting the top:
Do you hear the pump run?
Does the top move at all?
Does the pump "squeal"?
Does the pump sound like it has plenty of power or does it groan like it’s not getting enough?

After the top is lifted as far as it will go (pump starts to squeal)
Does the release cable move freely, in other words, when you pull on the release cable do you feel it working? the alternative would be the release cable not moving at all. You'll know the difference.

Concerning the caulk
I'd love to see a couple of pictures of the caulk that you mentioned. If you have a digital camera, you could post the pictures here. If you don't have a camera, maybe your phone does, and you could email me the pictures at NealAndBev@HiLoTrailerForum.com

Here's the way I see it. If the pump is lifting the top off of the safety latches, you'll be able to tell this by virtue of the release cable operating as opposed to be "solid" when you try to pull it. It's very easy to pull so don't get carried away. Then you should be able to lower the top after you pull and hold the safety cable.

If you are unsure about the operation for raising and lowering the top, please refer to the section in the owner’s manual on this

If the preceding is true, but the top still won't lower, then here is where I'll need some help from the more experienced folks here on HTF. BUT...before we start giving you various testing chores to do, we need you to answer all the questions and report back.

The systems on the Hi-Lo are actually fairly simple, and as you learn them and gain confidence, you'll love your Hi-Lo even more. So be sure to keep a positive attitude and look at this as a learning opportunity.

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Wow, that makes a fella think! Let me get a bit more information from you.

When you are lifting the top:
Do you hear the pump run? We donít know if the pump works at all. We bought it as is in the upright position; the used rv dealer bought it in the up position and said hauled in like that. We live in NE OK and the trailer is in Midwest KS; but we are going up there next week; taking tools and the owners manual cause we have to bring it back.Does the top move at all? It does not appear to move at all.
Does the pump "squeal"?
Donít know; will have more info next week; the dealer said they donít know. We are pretty sure after we get it home we can go thru it, but we are just trying to get it down to get it home; we know it needs tires and the wheel bearings packed, but that is about it.
Does the pump sound like it has plenty of power or does it groan like itís not getting enough?
When we were there, we didnít see the release cable and I didnít see any buttons by the door, but now, we are better equipped to know what we are looking for; we are not even sure what size wheels is has on it!

After the top is lifted as far as it will go (pump starts to squeal)
Does the release cable move freely, in other words, when you pull on the release cable do you feel it working? the alternative would be the release cable not moving at all. You'll know the difference.

Concerning the caulk
I'd love to see a couple of pictures of the caulk that you mentioned. If you have a digital camera, you could post the pictures here. If you don't have a camera, maybe your phone does, and you could email me the pictures at NealAndBev@HiLoTrailerForum.com
I have emailed you the brochure that we bought it fromÖ

Here's the way I see it. If the pump is lifting the top off of the safety latches, you'll be able to tell this by virtue of the release cable operating as opposed to be "solid" when you try to pull it. It's very easy to pull so don't get carried away. Then you should be able to lower the top after you pull and hold the safety cable.

If you are unsure about the operation for raising and lowering the top, please refer to the section in the ownerís manual on this.
We have and we still have questions, but it will be better when we are actually reunited with our trailer. We didnít know exactly what we looking for when we bought the trailer, but we have learned so much but want to make sure we take the right tools when we go. We will be taking our laptop when we go!! Just hope that we are able to get a connection!! We were so excited to find the hi lo, within the budget, that we bought the trailer and now we are faced with getting it home. We are excited and believe that this is a great find, we are DETERMINED to make this an adventure!!

If the preceding is true, but the top still won't lower, then here is where I'll need some help from the more experienced folks here on HTF. BUT...before we start giving you various testing chores to do, we need you to answer all the questions and report back.

The systems on the Hi-Lo are actually fairly simple, and as you learn them and gain confidence, you'll love your Hi-Lo even more. So be sure to keep a positive attitude and look at this as a learning opportunity.
Neal
My husband is very handy having remodeled our home and rebuilt his 1962 Chev truck; jack of all trades; he is knowledgeable about the hydraulics and the manual a TREMENDOUS help, he just wants to make sure he knows where to start when we get there. There is not a HI LO dealer in OK, but we are going to our first RV show this weekend!

Thanks for taking the time to visit with us!!

Topper
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:26 PM
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Topper -

You've got the right attitude!

I can't see the caulk that you spoke of in the pictures, so I'm not sure what's going on there. From the pictures, it looks like you got a deal! I incuded them so the other members who are following this story can see it too.

First - Before lowering the top, check to be sure everything is clear and positioned inside the camper as described per the manual. Locate the lift controls, just inside the door, near the floor, on the left, usually behind a little flip up door. Review the control operation in the manual. Raise the top until the pump squeals, pull and hold the safety cable, lower the top.

Second - If the top won't raise check to see if the battery is charged. If not, either replace the battery, or use jumper cables. Then try the first step again.

Third- If it still won't work, locate the breaker described in the post that we gave you a link to (earlier in this thread), reset if possible or replace if need be. You can test the breaker with a volt meter to see if it's good or bad, it should show battery voltage between the battery ground and each terminal of the breaker. If you need to replace it, itís a 12 volt, 30 amp breaker. Then try step one again.

Fourth - If there is still no power, Sam Shields said that some older models have an inline fuse, he said you could find it by tracing the wires. There are also a couple of fuses on the lift controls located just behind them. At least on mine anyhow. Test and replace as necessary and try step one again.

Since your DH rebuilt that truck, I know he's got to know his way around a volt meter, and with that and the manual he can track down the fault here, if there is one.

The folks in the Hi-Lo community believe in helping each other out, so if you can get a connection, while hubby is testing you can be a type'n.

If anyone else has suggestions for Topper, please jump in!

Neal
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Old 03-26-2010, 04:42 PM
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It may not hurt to crawl underneath to make a visual check on the hydraulic cylinder, the guide rod, the lift cables and connections, and the safety catch to see if everything appears to look normal. If any of those are bent or damaged in any way that could be a part of the problem or the beginning of additional problems on the way.

There are two Hi-Lo dealers in Kansas that may be able to help you if all else fails.

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