15T or 17T Experiences
 

Hello Hi-Lo’rs.

Now that I sold my 2707T as I want something smaller, I am considering Hi-Lo’s 15T or 17T if I were able to find one anywhere nearby in the southwest.

I am wondering if some of you have owned either of these units, and what your experiences and opinion of them have been for 2 adults.

Also, do you know in what years these two models units were made?

Bruce,
Some friends of ours had a 2007 17 Towlite they were happy with it for a weekend trip but when we actually took a week or more trip they said it was just too small for the two of them. They kept it for 3 years and then sold it and bought another brand of camper that was 24ft.

Bruce, we have a 1707T and are vary happy with it regarding the size and layout. The couch and dinette convert to a king sized sleeping platform and we use light down sleeping bags as bedding. We also upgraded the foam in the seat and back cushions which has made the sleeping very comfortable. (It was about a $200-300 modification, as I recall - we bought the foam at a foam and fabric place, they cut it to size and I just stuffed it into the original covers.)

We've also camped with our two Grandkids sleeping in the upper bunk and that has worked out well.

Our longest trips have been on the order of two weeks, and we've never felt the camper was too small. But, we do as much outside as we can, so the trailer is mostly for sleeping and when the weather is bad.

- Jack

Thanks to both of you for your feedback so far. Here's something I am wondering about how you handled. From pictures, it looks like the 17T only has a 1/2 normal width for a drawer for eating utensil storage. Whereas my former 2707T had a full width drawer plus one below it which I used as a "junk drawer." The 17T pictures look like you don't have a second drawer at all.

So, how have you stored eating utensils and junk?

Another question: the bath looks like it has an "emergency shower" hose, but it also has some open storage bins on the side of the toilet. How do you take a shower without letting water into the open storage bins?

15 or 17 HiLo
 

I know you specified these sizes. Just wanted to let you know our HiLo dealer has a 18 H for sale. www.MantelliRV.com ask for the salesman Chuck Carlson. They also have a 28ft. Classic for sale. If anyone would be interested we are available to check these out for you. I have been in both units in the past.

We store our eating utensils (knives, forks and spoons) as well as plates and kitchen tools, etc. in small boxes and a lift out "basket" inside the small narrow vertical storage space to the right of the fridge. I added a shelf in there too, about halfway up to improve the storage space. (Or maybe it came with the shelf - my memory might be playing tricks on me. I know I added a shelf in one of the cabinets - maybe it was the one under the bathroom sink.)

Things like bowls and drinking glasses go into a basket under the sink.

You COULD add slide out drawers under the dinette table if you desired, for the utensils and such.

I use the small drawer to the right of the fridge at the top of that space as a "junk" drawer.

The bath has a two piece shower curtain that expands around the full perimeter of the shower pan, enclosing you and the toilet (which is convenient for sitting) and it keeps the vanity area dry. The shower is hand held, but there is a bracket to hold it against the wall opposite the toilet if you want to put it there.

Hope I'm making sense. I could take pictures that show what I mean if you need them.

- Jack

You should also consider a 22' Towlite, it was the most popular size. For two people there is ample space and storage.

Didn't know about the 18 H model, which looks very similar to the 17T. Thanks for pointing that out, although the dealer is too distant. I am looking to stay smaller than anything larger.

The advantage of the 15 or 17 ft trailers is that you can get them into almost any camping space that's suitable for towed campers. They're about the size of a tent camper. The 15 ft trailer doesn't have the king-sized sleeping platform, if that is any concern for you. It was for us, which is why we didn't consider a 19 footer either, because of the sleeping space.

- Jack

Yes, lack of larger bed is a concern and the only way I would consider the 15T would be if it had the bunk bed. I'd like to see one to compare with the 17T, of which I plan to see in several days at a dealer in Arizona although the asking price is way too high.

something to think about
 

Yes,the dealer is aways from you. They could have it delivered to you. The layout might work for you and the price might be in your range. Ask them to email you pictures. Just saying. Chuck Carlson at Mantelli trailers. 1-716-625-8877. I hear you clearly you are looking at smaller ones.

The 18H is the same as a 17T. The 1810H was the last model made by HiLo, it was a cross between a Classic and a Towlite, but mostly a Towlite. My 2310H is the same size as a 22' Towlite. They just rounded off the total lengths to the next higher foot to come up with the number. They made a few 2011 models , very few. Personally, I liked the the features of the pre 2010 models better.

Agreed! One feature I don't like about the 18H is the rounded, non-opening, front window. We generally have most of the windows open when we camp, to take advantage of breezes. Since we rarely stay in campgrounds with hookups, and don't want to run a big generator, our air conditioner is mostly a roof decoration.

- Jack

Thanks for the info. on the 18H. That's helpful to know should I see one for sale, but I wouldn't buy one without inspecting so it would have to be within a day's drive in the Colorado/New Mexico/Arizona/Utah area.

I saw the 17T in Phoenix this week and liked it, but the dealer has it way overpriced--so far.

Question for you: It came equipped with a factory installed solar panel which I would think should keep the batteries charged up. But the double 12v batteries in the unit were nearly discharged, even though the dealer said they had checked them along with all systems and they were good. The batteries were dated 2014. So, how could they be nearly discharged with the solar panel charger?

The sales reps checked with someone else there who said the solar panel was only 30 watts and would not recharge batteries. But I am doubtful about this all.

Thoughts?

I have an 80 watt solar panel. After about 2 months my batteries yesterday were at 12.5 volts. Not a full charge, but about 75%. As long as they don't go below 12.2 volts or about 50% charge, they should be OK. Just remember to put a full charge on them ever so often.

Bruce, if that solar panel is the one I think it is, it's only a 15 Watt panel. That means, at 14 Volts, it can only deliver about 1 Amp, max. In practice, it won't even put out that much. I used to use 4-15 Watt panels when camping, connected in parallel for 60 Watts, and the most I ever measured out of them in full sunlight aimed directly at the sun was 2.5 Amps. That amount would just about be a break even charge with us being very careful while camping.

MAYBE, that little panel can maintain the batteries if there is no other load on them, but, I would not bet on it.

I also have a "factory installed" AM/FM/CD/DVD/TV in my trailer and it was hotwired to the battery, so it ALWAYS received "vampire" power, regardless of the master switch position. In about 3-4 weeks, it would kill the battery. I finally tracked down this problem and wired an ON/OFF switch into the power feed to it so that the battery could be completely disconnected from everything in the trailer. If the trailer you looked at had that option, it might well have overpowered the feeble charging current from the panel.

- Jack

We have a 17T since 07 and VERY happy.
We made minor adjustments to Dining and have 2 single beds with a folding table for guests to play cards inside. Also have drop down bunk that works great for 2 small or 1 medium grandkid(s) Changed out stove for 2 burner induction plate and added small microwave so our own pillow, own food and very comfy space means we are on the road more at 70 than at 60.

I have a 2008 15T. My wife I took a month long camping trip in it. We kept most of our cloths in our pick up truck. It was pretty cozy in the trailer. I use the trailer mostly by my self for hunting and fishing. The best feature is it's always in the garage to use when ever the camping urge strikes.

I have a 2008 15T towlite...My wife and I just love it Their is plenty of room for just the 2 of us.....It trailers great...We pull it with a 2006 For Escape...We get 21MPG towing it...

Wow! Wondering how much MPG do you lose from driving without towing?

2005 17T for sale
 

Hello,

I have a 2005 Towlite 17T for sale. I am in Central California. I am asking $6995. It is in great condition. We bought it in 2005 and have been all over the western United States with it. It sleeps 4 very comfortably. I have an ad on Craigslist in Modesto if you want to see pictures or get any further information on it.

Here is the link for those interested. Looks like a really clean unit!

2005 HI-LO TowLite 17T

Bruce, we had a 21T with the bunk which we used five years. We drove 9000 miles plus through Alaska and Canada and really got tired of crawling over each other during the night. When we lost the unit in a fire in 2013 we decided to go bigger and now have a 27T with walk around bed. We recently completed an 8500 mile trip through 19 states and though it is harder to find places where we can camp, I don't think we would ever down size.:)

We just purchased a 15' HiLo and are taking it out for the first time next week. Our problem is making a bed where the table is located. The leg on the table does not telescope and we can't get the table to "go down" to the level of the side seats. Our 28' HiLo has a table that drops down for a bed platform, but this doesn't. There is an extra laminated board that would partially complete the full-size bed and also one that has been "home made." What are we missing? Need to know ASAP. Too old to sleep in the limited floor space.

Sounds like someone modified the table leg. Is the leg hinged to the underside of the table so it can swing up and be secured on the underside of the table?:confused:

The leg is hinged to the underside of the table, but when we swing it up, it is several inches too long and hits the wall before allowing the table to drop down into place. Like I mentioned, it does not have the "telescoping holes" so that you can adjust the length of the leg. Thanks for the response. Suggestions????

There is also an additional "leaf" about 4-5 inches wide and the length of the table width???

And with the table leaf in place, the table leg still does not have room to swing up?:(

I'm confused too, Duffer - A longer leg would seem to position the outer end of the table higher than the wall end. Mine swings up and does not hit the wall, and, there are NO telescoping holes in it either.

I wonder - is it possible the table leg has been moved on the underside of the table so that it's closer to the wall? That would still keep it level, but would cause the problem you talk about.

I have no clue what the additional "leaf" is that you talk about. Is it possible the table can be taken out completely and then the leaf dropped into place to help form the bed platform?

- Jack

"I have no clue what the additional "leaf" is that you talk about. Is it possible the table can be taken out completely and then the leaf dropped into place to help form the bed platform?"

If so- then there should be another board or two lineing about somewhere to form the bed platform I would think.

Gary, Jack & Hilltool: Resolved. We purchased a new telescoping leg. There was apparently a MAJOR alteration and the solid leg was too long to allow the table to drop down. We are still not certain how the other laminated piece fits except as part of the bed frame. The small "leaf" will now fit in a slot to complete the bed platform. Will let you know and maybe post a picture when we finish installing the leg!
Thanks for all the responses.

Glad you got it resolved in time for your camping trip. Enjoy!:)