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RichR 01-30-2012 07:28 PM

Ford F-150 with ECO Boost
 
Does anyone have an F-150 with the ECO Boost Engine? I am about to trade the Taco in on one. Most reports have been favorable so far. DaveL that is a forum member tows his 2409T with one and he is very pleased with it.

JackandJanet 01-31-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RichR (Post 10351)
Does anyone have an F-150 with the ECO Boost Engine? I am about to trade the Taco in on one. Most reports have been favorable so far. DaveL that is a forum member tows his 2409T with one and he is very pleased with it.

I'm a moderator on the f150online forum and members there have been very positive about this new engine. From what I've read, it has more "pulling power" than the non-blown engines.

If I could afford one, I'd buy one.

- Jack

RichR 01-31-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 10355)
I'm a moderator on the f150online forum and members there have been very positive about this new engine. From what I've read, it has more "pulling power" than the non-blown engines.

If I could afford one, I'd buy one.

- Jack

Yes, I have been checking there on occasion and have seen mostly positive comments. The dissenters seem to be mostly non-ecoboost owners. You know Chevy and Dodge are always better than Ford, or are they? The answer to that is , it all depends. It is like arguing politics. ;)

dirtfan 01-31-2012 06:46 PM

Rich, this is a very good question as i'll be purchasing one of these sometime this year, right now I have a 99 Ranger with 190k on it, another reason i'm swaying to purchase one of these is that they weren't part of the bailout a few years ago

JackandJanet 01-31-2012 07:32 PM

There was also a "teardown" that Ford did on one of these engines after running for 100,000 miles I think. The wear on the engine was minimal.

- Jack

Fireballsocal 01-31-2012 08:56 PM

I am a member of an offroad forum where owners have nothing but steller things to say about it. They also say the 5.4 V8 can't compare. The ecoboost feels more like the 6.2L

It's a very complex engine and in my eye, there is alot to go wrong. I don't think there is any way of knowing till alot of trucks with alot of milage start showing up.

RichR 02-01-2012 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 10360)
There was also a "teardown" that Ford did on one of these engines after running for 100,000 miles I think. The wear on the engine was minimal.

- Jack

I heard that it was put through a pretty rigorous test. It was just a regular engine that was pulled from the production line and was not modified in any way.

RichR 02-01-2012 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fireballsocal (Post 10363)
I am a member of an offroad forum where owners have nothing but steller things to say about it. They also say the 5.4 V8 can't compare. The ecoboost feels more like the 6.2L

It's a very complex engine and in my eye, there is alot to go wrong. I don't think there is any way of knowing till alot of trucks with alot of milage start showing up.

That is the only part that I am concerned with. Oh well, we will see.
DaveL, one of our members, is really happy with his. He has researched about all he could about the Ecoboost.

robobd 02-01-2012 05:03 PM

a ford product
 
Think twice about a ford product, i own one and its not the initial quality, but the service costs from ford dealers. they try to see how deep my pockets really are. I just got a estimate to replace 2 injectors with rebuilt ones and replace a oil dipstick o ring. A $4000.00 dollar estimate! I had a local qualified mechanic replace the 2 injectors for $375.00 and replaced the o ring myself for 3.00 and 4 hours labor. a huge difference. I would buy a toy tundra or a chevy 1500

RichR 02-01-2012 06:39 PM

I would be looking for a different dealer. One tried something like that with my daughter when she had a problem with her Focus. It was going to be a ridiculous amount to repair a rear window mechanism. I called our small hometown Ford dealer and they repaired it for about one third of the cost, using the same parts. It was worth her 160 mile trip home to have the work done there.

DaveL 02-02-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RichR (Post 10371)
I would be looking for a different dealer. One tried something like that with my daughter when she had a problem with her Focus. It was going to be a ridiculous amount to repair a rear window mechanism. I called our small hometown Ford dealer and they repaired it for about one third of the cost, using the same parts. It was worth her 160 mile trip home to have the work done there.

I have had my eco-boost for almost a year now and I just love it. I had a 05 F-150 before with the 5.4 v8 and this eco-boost will run circles around it. It tows my 2409T with ease lot more power and torque than the 5.4 had. The 6 speed trans with the haul/tow button turned on makes it a lot easier to control the trailer when going down hills as it will automatically down shift when you touch the brake to slow down. The haul/tow button also improves take off power when towing by moving the shift points to a higher RPM. This was a great improvement over the 05s overdrive on/of button.

As far as engine reliability check out Pickup Truck Comparison | Compare the 2011 F-150 vs. Ram, Tundra & Silverado & Watch EcoBoost Videos | Ford.com to see the torture test, this is what sold me on buying a engine in its first year of production. This is also the most quiet and comfortable truck I have ever ridden in. Drove to Columbus Ohio and back home, 522 miles round trip, on a single tank of gas.

As for quality of Fords, in 36 years I have put over a 1 million miles on the Fords I have owned and experienced only one on the road failure and that was a stuck thermostat, (knock on wood).

robobd 02-02-2012 02:10 PM

I did that with three different dealers, each had a different story, a close to simmular price , one in brookston,indiana charged me 2850.00 when i got it back 2 weeks later, still same problem, except i was out 2850.00 out of my pocket, and ford dealer network main offices wouldnt help because i did not hav a "new car warantee" then they ask "is there anything they can help me with" . to go to court and try to get my money back, they say well they changed this and this and this that is what they charged you for, did they do this? YES they did, but there diagnosis systems obviously dont work for bull dung because the problem was never fixed by a ford dealer-(Thieves with smiles and no mask) I have ran across a ford dealer down in georga, they changed my oil(15 quarts),oil filter,fuel filter and cam sensor all for 159.00
just an estimate in merrilville,In. was 163.00 for 15 minutes of their computers work, and should i belive it?

robobd 02-02-2012 02:31 PM

I am sorry if i seem so negitive about ford products but i hate more than anything thieves and liars . I guess you can sum this into the catagory of used car dealers. I do not treat anybody this way, and maybee i am too nieve and think that everyone should be that way just because i am . I guess if everyone was that way, you wouldnt have multimillion dollar car dealers and paycheck to paycheck car owners

RichR 02-02-2012 03:26 PM

DaveL, Good to see your report. I know how you do your homework, so I figured that if it is good enough for you it should work for me as well. It makes my work much easier.

We hope to see you at the "Other Place" soon. :)

PS, Get your signature updated to the new truck.

RichR 02-02-2012 03:57 PM

Dave, I just watched the video and I think that is my truck they are running. :D

Maybe I should check the engine number.

captbobster 02-03-2012 04:39 AM

I am also thinking of going the same route to keep from going diesel but with a supercharged Tundra. The supercharger supplied and installed by Toyota ups the horsepower and torque of the 5.7 to 500hp and 550 lbft and keeps the original warranty. Has anyone here had any experience with this setup?

Trailerer 02-03-2012 09:04 AM

Here is a pretty informative article regarding the Ford F-150 with Twin Turbo w/ EcoBoost. First Drive: Ford F-150 Twin-Turbo EcoBoost

captbobster 02-03-2012 09:25 AM

Read the article on the Ford and am not impressed with the power or the mileage. I am driving a Toyota Sequoia now with the 5.7 and have more hp and a little less torque and 6sp transmission and get better mileage. Pulling my Hi Lo throught the hills and mountains of California I am getting no worse than 11 and averaging 13.5 on a full tank. I think if I was going for torque the supercharged Tundra is the way to go, this engine is a long stroke 4 valve pulling fool.

sting32 02-07-2012 11:51 AM

Buy a truck for the JOB, be careful
 
I have to hope FORD and others have figured something out, that goes against knowledge gained for the last say at least 20? years...

Pulling heavy loads, with minimal engine, usually meanst quick failures, unless the towing is only sporadic. Add a Turbo to this equasion, and it used to be a NO NO, as the heat genereated and the work applied to the smaller motor would grind an engine to a nub quickly...

but nowdays most of the aim is for a pickup that is driven to the office/shopping most of the time, that "might work" on weekends (dare I say never all weekends)... in that shape, is where the eco engine probably seems to shine?

Towing across country is just like trying to pull a 200 hp required implement (6 bottom mulboard plow in my following analogy) behind a hopped up 160hp tractor that they added turbo to get 200hp. What we found out, over and over was, with added Heat and Stress to make the 200hp on the smaller engines, shortley the engine was, well they fail pretty quickly.

Now hook that much bigger 300 Hp tractor, it sipped fuel pulling 6 bottom (we actually pull 9 bottom with 300 hp), it is never strained, will pull that little plow all day for many years, easily. But to use that 300hp tractor to spin something that needed only 20 hp like grinders, balers, lawnmower decks... then you had a problem with wasting fuel in that 300 hp tractor (aka you dont drive the big tractor to office or shopping, if you are worried about fuel economy).

just my $.02


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