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Old 10-13-2014, 11:19 AM   #1
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Finally got some quality photos of the 23'er that my wife and i bought. Took these during our trip this past weekend at Kokosing Camp and Canoe near Millwood, Ohio. No sewer hook up, but for just the weekend it was no big deal.
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Finally got some quality photos of the 23'er that my wife and i bought. Took these during our trip this past weekend at Kokosing Camp and Canoe near Millwood, Ohio. No sewer hook up, but for just the weekend it was no big deal.
Nice looking rig. This is just a suggestion, but when I put my awning out, I deliberately have the side away from the door about "2 clicks" lower than the door side. This helps rainwater runoff that would otherwise "pool" in the middle of the awning, (where it naturally "sags") and it can become quite heavy, possibly to the point of causing damage.

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Old 10-14-2014, 06:19 AM   #3
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Thanks Jack. I'll try to remember that the next time I have it out. Looking at putting it away for the winter for now but it will get a lot of use next year.

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Nice looking rig. This is just a suggestion, but when I put my awning out, I deliberately have the side away from the door about "2 clicks" lower than the door side. This helps rainwater runoff that would otherwise "pool" in the middle of the awning, (where it naturally "sags") and it can become quite heavy, possibly to the point of causing damage.

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We don't have that problem here in sunny California.

I did notice on our trip that some folks had tied down the corners of their awnings due to wind, I guess.
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Finally got some quality photos of the 23'er that my wife and i bought. Took these during our trip this past weekend at Kokosing Camp and Canoe near Millwood, Ohio. No sewer hook up, but for just the weekend it was no big deal.
Congratulations on your new rig. What is your TV? I could not make that out in the pic.
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It's a 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander. Didn't purchase the towing package when I bought it, but it had all the necessary connections just in case, including the transmission cooler. Just had to have a Class III hitch installed. First time hauling didn't have a WDH and it sure sagged. Bought the EAZ-LIFT WDH and it certainly makes a difference.

Wife and I will probably purchase a bigger rig when we start hauling it regularly, but for now it gets the job done pretty well. She really liked the looks of the Dodge 2500 she saw in a commercial just last night, especially the highway mileage.
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It's a 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander. Didn't purchase the towing package when I bought it, but it had all the necessary connections just in case, including the transmission cooler. Just had to have a Class III hitch installed. First time hauling didn't have a WDH and it sure sagged. Bought the EAZ-LIFT WDH and it certainly makes a difference.

Wife and I will probably purchase a bigger rig when we start hauling it regularly, but for now it gets the job done pretty well. She really liked the looks of the Dodge 2500 she saw in a commercial just last night, especially the highway mileage.
Yes, A DWH makes all the difference in the world and glad to hear your TV worked out okay. In the mid 90's I tried to buy a used 24 ft Hi-Lo but the dealer wouldn't sell it to me as my '94 4-Runner was not rated for the trailer, hence my question to you on your TV.
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We don't have that problem here in sunny California.

I did notice on our trip that some folks had tied down the corners of their awnings due to wind, I guess.
When I lived in CA my worry was usually wind, especially in the desert. I often tied down the corners of the awning. I also used some straps that kept the awning fabric from flapping in the wind:
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The previous owners never used the awning as when they first bought it there wasn't one so they had it installed after, then they stopped going camping. When we first rolled it out a couple weeks ago you could tell that they didn't keep a cover on it because the mildew, but also the inside corner above the door was ripped about a foot into the fabric. We're going to try replacing the awning in the spring before we start using it a lot.

My son is a competitive trapshooter so we'll be making a lot of trips with it to his different competitions next year.

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The previous owners never used the awning as when they first bought it there wasn't one so they had it installed after, then they stopped going camping. When we first rolled it out a couple weeks ago you could tell that they didn't keep a cover on it because the mildew, but also the inside corner above the door was ripped about a foot into the fabric. We're going to try replacing the awning in the spring before we start using it a lot.

My son is a competitive trapshooter so we'll be making a lot of trips with it to his different competitions next year.

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Keep in mind that you can get replacement awning fabric, sized and ready to install. Check the RV supply places.
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The mildew should come of with a good cleaning. Use an awning cleaner(Walmart). If need be use your favorite cleaner and MR. Clean magic sponges. Let dry and then apply a product to both sides like son of a gun or armoral. What ever is cheapest. Try Mr. clean Magic erasers. New awnings are very expensive. Try finding a you Tube on how to remove the fabric. Then take it to a canvas/awning/boat repair place. Provided the rest of the fabric is in good shape. Hope this saves you some money.
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Just another thought. Follow all directions on the cleaning product label. Do a test spot if necessary. Let the cleaner sit on the awning long enough to work. I tend to want to wipe the cleaner up to soon.
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Hi
Since you have a 2002, 23 footer, I wondered if your's was the LX model with the Expand-a-Room option, of a tilt out. If so, any pros or cons you've noted with that tilt out?
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It is the LX model with the tilt out couch. So far it has worked out great. My two sons share the bed at night and my oldest just turned 17 and is as big as me (5' 10", 220lbs) and he sleeps on the outside near the window.

I did discover while closing up the camper the first time that the board used for the slide out will fall onto the floor when I start tilting the couch back in. That was solved by putting a screw through the back of the board underneath the cushions prior to pulling the couch in. That kept the board from dropping out and putting dents into the floor. We have a runner carpet directly under the couch to protect the floor as well.

My next big thing is to figure out why the water heater isn't lighting. I had the camper into a shop to get it winterized and they looked at it for me. Told me it was the thermostat assembly. I'm not going to worry about it until I get ready to take it back out next spring though. Hopefully I'll still be able to get the assembly then.
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Hi GoCamp,

We have the tip-out on out 24 footer. On a positive note, the tip-out sofa really opens up the living space while camped. With that, there are some things to consider:

It adds more weight to the trailer. I've heard it's around 600-700 pounds but not positive on that.

It adds one more step to do when setting up or breaking camp.

On my model, it limits access to the back end of the trailer if you want to get back there while on the road. If you wanted to stop for a break, you not only have to raise the top half but have to deploy the tip-out as well (another step).

You need to clear any items in front of the sofa, and also ensure lower cabinet doors and drawers are closed before deploying or retracting the tip-out.

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Jim, on your water heater problem, remember that all these trailers, RV's motor homes etc all use pretty much the same parts, appliances electronics and so forth. That water heater probably is in half a million units. IThe parts for it will be available for a long time to come.
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