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sam 03-30-2012 08:44 PM

A little info. on the prototype HiLo
 
Our salesman retired from selling trailers(80years old.) We didn't expect to see him at the dealership. He was filling in for someone. He told us HiLo will be taking orders in two years for custom trailers. He plans to make a trip to PA (soon) to speak with the new owner. What a guy!! Our camping club has a dinner in April and I will fill you in as details become available. Our parts guy said they shouldn't be using plastic end caps that crack. They also need to get rid of the Lexen window as it is a real safety hazard. Other guys headlights bounce off it and it is a real bad distraction. I,m sure we as owners could compile quite a few ideas to the new owner.

jcurtis95 03-31-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sam (Post 11280)
Our salesman retired from selling trailers(80years old.) We didn't expect to see him at the dealership. He was filling in for someone. He told us HiLo will be taking orders in two years for custom trailers. He plans to make a trip to PA (soon) to speak with the new owner. What a guy!! Our camping club has a dinner in April and I will fill you in as details become available. Our parts guy said they shouldn't be using plastic end caps that crack. They also need to get rid of the Lexen window as it is a real safety hazard. Other guys headlights bounce off it and it is a real bad distraction. I,m sure we as owners could compile quite a few ideas to the new owner.


Sam,

I'll second that! I have a 2006 with two long cracks in each end cap. Plus [3] other cracks that are trying to reach the outer limits. i drilled 1/16" holes in the ends of all the holes to stop the progress. I bought some supposedly really tough stuff today and applied it. I will report to the forum how it works out.

Aside from that, I am just getting ready to apply Kool Seal elastomeric paint to the roof due to metal fatigue, and this Hi Lo is just 6 years old! The roof failure was due to factory craftsmanship. I would recommend a heavy fiber or rubber barrier between the metal roof and plywood. No one should have to repair a roof due to poor factory workers who are more interested in meeting their objective quantity wise at the expense of quality.

I would just tell the new owners to not cut corners and check on their craftsmen/women regularly. The hotshots whose goal is for quantity and not quality should be shown the front entrance. If a person can afford a new Hi Lo or any other brand, he/she should not have to do penny ante repairs because the factory chooses to cut corners and fail to check the work of their craftsmen/women.

Aside from some of the the finish work and some occasional shoddy workmanship, the Hi Lo is a superb RV. We have owned two before this one and the craftsmanship back in 75' and 91' was far superior to what i have seen in the later models.

I hope the new owners join this forum and learn what their [future] customers are having to contend with.

I look forward to your report after your meeting.

Jerry Curtis
2406 T [With Plastic End Caps]!!

hilltool 03-31-2012 04:28 PM

So- I missed seeing where somebody bought Hi-lo. This is true?
Just put money down on a 2201. Are the issues being mentioned germain to those manufacturing years?

sam 03-31-2012 07:09 PM

Update on HiLo
 
Read the back posts on the Rv dealership that has bought the copyrights to HILo.

sam 03-31-2012 07:13 PM

Roof repairs
 
You are quite right in your comments about the quality coming out of the HiLo factory. They charged alot of $ for inferior parts. That is why we restored our 90 Classic as the problems were fixable by us. We want to spend our time camping not having to fix a young age trailer.

Dee Tillotson 04-01-2012 04:39 AM

Sam -- I think the dealership (can't remember the name right now) possibly bought the remaining intellectual property rights, which probably include the rights to use the Hi-Lo trademark and any remaining trade secret information. Any patent rights have probably expired by now, which at that time was 17 years from the date of issuance of the patents. When the Hi-Lo Co. closed shop, they had been in business longer than 17 years.

Dee
2009 2509C

RichR 04-01-2012 06:56 AM

This is the dealer that bought the HiLo rights, etc. He's not very far from my location. Kerola's RV dealership specializing in lightweight campers. Small camper experts!

RichR 04-05-2012 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sam (Post 11280)
Our salesman retired from selling trailers(80years old.) We didn't expect to see him at the dealership. He was filling in for someone. He told us HiLo will be taking orders in two years for custom trailers. He plans to make a trip to PA (soon) to speak with the new owner. What a guy!! Our camping club has a dinner in April and I will fill you in as details become available. Our parts guy said they shouldn't be using plastic end caps that crack. They also need to get rid of the Lexen window as it is a real safety hazard. Other guys headlights bounce off it and it is a real bad distraction. I,m sure we as owners could compile quite a few ideas to the new owner.

I can't see that the Lexan front window is a safety hazard, it is mostly shadowed by the tow vehicle and any reflection back would be minimal. Being curved makes the reflection back less intense as well. Having a 2310H, I don't really care for the front window and would prefer the old style front window in a fiberglass front shell. The older windows could be opened for ventilation and and had the cover that provided shade for the window. Why they made that change didn't make any sense to me. They made a number of dumb changes in 2010.

robobd 04-05-2012 08:35 AM

the shop manager and each line foreman should have been responsible for the quality of the finished units, they were probably getting a bonus for how many units above and beyond a certain minimum. If it were me that owned the company, a bonus would go to the workers for zero defect trailers,to be split equally among all workers , this way the sloths and slackers get weeded out by the quality process, also ISO standards should be in place. leave saleries lower,give good bonuses to compinsate self disiplined quality and you don't have to worry about greedy mismanaged brotherinlaws that drain down your dream

sam 04-05-2012 05:31 PM

Lexan window produces shadow/safety hazard
 
Our dealer towed a newer HiLo to an RV show and he said it nearly drove him nuts when the vehicles headlights in the on coming gave him a huge glare off the lexan window. This is a huge safety hazard. I totally agree that many of the changed in the 2010 model didn't make any sense. Inferior quality and just as expensive. We love our front window that opens up and has a rock shield.

RichR 04-05-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sam (Post 11429)
Our dealer towed a newer HiLo to an RV show and he said it nearly drove him nuts when the vehicles headlights in the on coming gave him a huge glare off the lexan window. This is a huge safety hazard. I totally agree that many of the changed in the 2010 model didn't make any sense. Inferior quality and just as expensive. We love our front window that opens up and has a rock shield.

I have never experienced that, but I have not towed it much after dark. I could see where it could maybe reflect back into the side view mirrors.

jcurtis95 04-05-2012 08:44 PM

Sam & Rich R,

Regarding the blinding of oncoming traffic, Would not that have been an improper adjustment on the WDH? An over adjustment would place too much weight on the hitch which would put too much weight on the rear end, thus lifting the headlights higher if I'm not mistaken. [?]

Jerry Curtis
2406 T

sam 04-05-2012 09:37 PM

Safety Hazard
 
I would be willing to bet that our HiLo dealer employee was set up properly for towing.

JMDoering 04-05-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jcurtis95 (Post 11434)
Sam & Rich R,

Regarding the blinding of oncoming traffic, Would not that have been an improper adjustment on the WDH? An over adjustment would place too much weight on the hitch which would put too much weight on the rear end, thus lifting the headlights higher if I'm not mistaken. [?]

Jerry Curtis
2406 T

Hi Jerry,
They are referring to the headlights of oncoming traffic reflecting off the Lexan window and glaring into the TV rear view mirrors. WDH adjustment would have no effect on that.

Jim

jcurtis95 04-06-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JMDoering (Post 11438)
Hi Jerry,
They are referring to the headlights of oncoming traffic reflecting off the Lexan window and glaring into the TV rear view mirrors. WDH adjustment would have no effect on that.

Jim

Sorry, I misunderstood. I am not familiar with the Lexan window of which you speak. We have a large camper shell on our TV so that would not be a problem for us towing during the nighttime.

Jerry Curtis
2406 T

RichR 04-06-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jcurtis95 (Post 11445)
Sorry, I misunderstood. I am not familiar with the Lexan window of which you speak. We have a large camper shell on our TV so that would not be a problem for us towing during the nighttime.

Jerry Curtis
2406 T

The brochure shows what we were talking about. https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/f52/...2010-hi-lo-12/

JIM L 04-06-2012 10:09 AM

I don't think the problem is the material (Lexan) but the fact that HiLo did not put a rock shield on the RV. With the many rock nicks I got on my rock shield and the front of the trailer when we went to Alaska, if I had a 2010 I would make a rock shield. Lexan is a stronger and more resistant to scratches.

Atlee 04-06-2012 11:12 AM

Fortunately, that's one problem I don't need to worry with. Our '09 22' Towlite comes with a glass window, AND a rock shield.

RichR 04-06-2012 02:48 PM

The front cap on the 2010 sticks out further in front than on the older HiLo front cap. (Look on page 8 of the brochure) There is very little space between the cap/window and the gas tanks. In fact, the tank cover was rubbing on the front window when we first got the trailer. HiLo replaced the window and replaced the tank cover with the optional hard fiberglass tank cover. The standard cover has a new design that tapers out on top which made it closer to the window. It would be very difficult to catch a rock from the tow vehicle, but it could be possible to get one from oncoming vehicles.

JMDoering 04-06-2012 06:36 PM

Rich,

I've never actually seen a Hi-Lo with the Lexan window. All the photos in the brochure show the window flush with the front of the trailer.

Does that thing open? Curious minds want to know. :)

Jim


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