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dirtfan 05-28-2011 01:34 PM

And so it begins
 
Started tearing out the wall by the shower today, also discovered that the work done by the previous owner needs to be done again, I have taken some photos and will update as I go along, I hope to have the wall off later today so I can get it done right :D

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...0850eb1076.jpg

Link to my photobucket album is photobucket.com

dirtfan 05-28-2011 08:08 PM

Finally dug out the insulation that was in the bottom of the wall, took me a couple of hours to clean it up

Here is what was behind the repaired portion that was done by the previous owner, glad i had a look at it before I covered it up, tomorrow off to one of the home improvement places to see what kid of sealer I can paint on the roof, no sense in doing any replacement without sealing up the roof, when I removed the portion that was fixed already I seen 8 different places where the light was coming thru the wall

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...7e5afd4885.jpg

sam 05-28-2011 11:04 PM

Fixing your HiLo
 
Thanks for taking the time to post pictures..I'm sure when we fix our delamination your experience will help us. Your daughter is adorable in the picture. We are finaly going to get two days without rain. Routine maintenance is on our long list of things to do

dirtfan 05-30-2011 08:56 PM

Did some more dismantling today, took down the cupboard on the door side, removed the paneling on the same side in the bathroom and also went towards the door, one thing I like is that the paper in behind the insulation tells me how far I have to go, when it is dry I stop, have also spotted more holes where the water came in, I have uploaded more photos to my photo bucket album

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...0761a95daf.jpg

sam 05-30-2011 11:53 PM

Repair
 
The worst part of any job is getting started1 I showed the pictures to my hubby so he knows what he will be getting into next year. I wish I had a big heated garage so that he could work on it during the winter. You might want to remove your dinette cushions so that they don't get dirty. sam

dirtfan 06-04-2011 12:35 PM

I have finally removed all the junk in the back walls of the trailer, I have found quite a few small holes on the outside skin, I was debating on whether the replace the skin or just cover them with a sealer, not sure on what i'm going to do with them, now I have to figure on how to remove the whole back panel from the inside, i'm not sure if I can remove it that way and i'm doing this outside so I don't want to remove the outside end cap

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...2e74c09035.jpg

dirtfan 06-05-2011 10:03 PM

The walls on the back half of the hilo have been removed, today I did seal the voids from the inside, I went to Home Depot and purchase some water proofing tape, it has a foil backing and is very sticky on the other side, picked up some sealer for the roof and also the insulation and my wife picked out the wall board that will be going in this week :D I have uploaded a few more photos to my photobucket page of the progress

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...4a92f3a6a4.jpg

dirtfan 06-05-2011 10:14 PM

I did find that the roof had already been patched in the bathroom area, it is on the left side as your standing towards the rear, was there something there before? I have included a photo as to where the roof was patched

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...f35b24ad08.jpg

dirtfan 06-11-2011 09:10 PM

Started to put it back together today, put new butyl tape and reinstalled the window, also installed new paneling, now here do I put the stereo? :D

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...564ab7c1f1.jpg

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...935e53ebae.jpg

dirtfan 06-12-2011 11:19 AM

Put the cupboard back up today

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...7d5030857f.jpg

dirtfan 06-24-2011 07:59 PM

Just tested the water system and there are no leaks, hooked up a couple of wires that the previous owner had taken apart and I have shore power, waiting for the verdict on the fridge, hope the darn thing works, will continue removing another part of the wall and hopefully have most of the panelling finished off this weekend!

dirtfan 06-24-2011 08:57 PM

The freezer is cooling come on fridge :D:D

JackandJanet 06-24-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtfan (Post 6985)
The freezer is cooling come on fridge :D:D

I think if the freezer is working, the whole thing will. It takes about 24 hours to get stabilized.

- Jack

dirtfan 06-24-2011 09:33 PM

Jack I sure hope your right as I will not be purchasing an new fridge for the camper in the near future

Pipers Family 06-24-2011 09:43 PM

Thanks for the pics- wondered what it looked like behind those walls- Your new walls look great.

dirtfan 06-24-2011 09:55 PM

Jack, the temp has dropped 10 degrees since I plugged the fridge in so i'm hoping it's good to go.

Pipers Family, I did the same kind of rebuild to my popup camper but didn't take any photos so this time around I have a new phone with a great camera and I have been taking some every time I do something in it.

I guess I have to look into borrowing a truck to use it soon, I have a 99 Ford Ranger but i'm sure it won't cut it, the Ranger only has a 4500 lb GVRW and has 179,000 miles on it.

Now to test the air conditioner soon, not really interested in seeing if the furnace works in June and July

dirtfan 06-25-2011 07:41 AM

Success, checked the fridge this morning and it has cooled off, now I guess it's time to see if the air works, too bad I don't have a 30 amp feed to try it.

I haven't mentioned it in this thread but I only paid $800 for this unit, it came with a WDH and a sway bar, I have about $100 into it so far and the biggest expense will be the tires, they look good but are more than 10 years old and i'm not interested in taking a chance with them

campthewestcoast 06-25-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtfan (Post 6701)
Started to put it back together today, put new butyl tape and reinstalled the window, also installed new paneling, now here do I put the stereo? :D

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...564ab7c1f1.jpg

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...935e53ebae.jpg

Where did you find the new interior wall paneling,did it come with that finish on it or did you add wall paper? Do you know the manufacturer?

dirtfan 06-25-2011 12:07 PM

Les, that isn't wallpaper that's the way I bought them, they are 4x8 sheets and are found at Menards, they cost about $16 or so

dirtfan 06-26-2011 08:13 PM

Need a little help, i'm not sure if I did the right thing but I removed all the clearance lights and used a elastrometric sealer behind them, put it in the wire and screw holes, should I have used something else?

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...bd61f64233.jpg

Also where do I find the seals that go on the top of the windows?

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...fc4fe2f6a2.jpg

JIM L 06-27-2011 08:44 AM

The sealer should do the job. I have used an elastomeric sealer (Lexell) for a dozen years and never had it fail or My rv's and homes. As for the seal on the window call J&R and see if they can help. Many owners are replacing the seal under the window, door and vent frames and this seal should be butyl rubber tape. I would encourge everyone to google Lexell (Sashco.com) and read the specs on this product.

PopRichie77 06-27-2011 11:45 AM

I believe your arrow is pointing to the rubber flap seal, you might get them at J R Repair.
Home - JR REPAIR

dirtfan 06-29-2011 07:18 PM

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated, my wife and kids will be gone this weekend so I hope I have decent weather so I can seal the roof

sam 06-30-2011 09:47 PM

sealing your roof
 
Suggestion,Tape off where you don't want the sealer to. go..When you are done take the tape off. We will be detailing our HiLo this weekend.

dirtfan 07-03-2011 06:21 PM

Went to seal the roof today and noticed that the roof vent seal didn't look the greatest so I clean off the silicone as best as I could (stupid stuff to use on a trailer!) and used a elastromeric sealer and ordered a roll of eternabond off of ebay, looks like maybe next weekend i'll seal the roof, time to sit back and have a few coors light and enjoy the long weekend :D

dirtfan 07-04-2011 03:52 PM

Started tearing into the left front of the camper today, this has had a leak for quite some time, the wood frame around the window was very rotten, nothing left to it, oh well time to continue

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...39669dd6d7.jpg

sam 07-04-2011 10:42 PM

The fun begins and continues
 
Don't know if this will make you feel anybetter. We have to tear out quite a bit in our delaminated trailer. 90 HiLo Classic. We also will be spending two days tearing out two windows on the pasenger side. After putting the window back in with Butyl tape what caulk should we use to seal around the exterior window fiberglass?

JIM L 07-05-2011 05:58 AM

SAM I would use Lexell. Look up Sashco, Inc. Log Home Maintenance and restoration products and sealants for conventional home construction. then look at their product Lexell and read the specs. This is great stuff and I have used it for about a dozen years and never had it fail. The web site will tell you where to get it locally. The web site Sashco.com

sam 07-05-2011 09:33 AM

caulking
 
I got on the website when you did a previous post and wondered why or how it pertained to log homes. We have a building supply place near our home that I will try. Hubby goes their with his boss to get supplies. I also know ACE hardware is listed. I,m sure silicone caulk will not be usedany more for our house repairs. The beauty of learning things on this forum.

dirtfan 07-05-2011 05:54 PM

Maybe somebody can help me, I really want to seal the roof asap but I have ordered a roll of eternabond, can the eternabond be applied on top of the elastromeric sealer or should I wait until I receive the roll of eternabond? Thanks

sam 07-05-2011 10:29 PM

sealing the roof
 
See if externa bond has a website to get your question answered.

JIM L 07-06-2011 04:55 PM

Look on their website or on the product package for their 800 phone number for their customer service and call them. Have always found them them happy to help with technical questions

JIM L 07-06-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam (Post 7236)
I got on the website when you did a previous post and wondered why or how it pertained to log homes. We have a building supply place near our home that I will try. Hubby goes their with his boss to get supplies. I also know ACE hardware is listed. I,m sure silicone caulk will not be usedany more for our house repairs. The beauty of learning things on this forum.

Sashco makes many products and some specially for log homes.

dirtfan 07-16-2011 10:52 PM

I started to repack the bearings today, it was only 90 with a heat index of 100, I think I may have lost a couple pounds today :-) I'll finish it off tomorrow and put some water in the fresh water tank, add some bleach and take it for a ride

sting32 07-18-2011 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtfan (Post 6995)
Success, checked the fridge this morning and it has cooled off, now I guess it's time to see if the air works, too bad I don't have a 30 amp feed to try it.

I haven't mentioned it in this thread but I only paid $800 for this unit, it came with a WDH and a sway bar, I have about $100 into it so far and the biggest expense will be the tires, they look good but are more than 10 years old and i'm not interested in taking a chance with them

you can "test" your AC, with everything else turned off, with the Cord adapeter (often refered to as a dog bone) that lets you use your garage's wall socket. just use as short as possible extension cord, since your camper already has 25ft cord. A Test is a few minutes. Please note the AC can take a lot of "juice" to start, so if like me the socket you use also powers other things in the garage, the breaker might not hold it. I ended up moving mine to another breaker for use with the camper. I dont just run the AC with it, but the wife did while loading stuff. I do just enough to see that the AC will work, after care and maint.

use a lot of caution, use a good and big guage but short extension cord like an orange outdoor type 3 wire, I cannot stress enough to use short as you can get by with, even if you go buy one just for this purpose.

FWIW, when the wife did this --> ran the ac all afternoon while packing, it melted the connection on the extension cord to the dogbone. she doesnt do this anymore, lol.

About the fridge, Here's a tip fo you DF:

get a 12v fan or 2. and look for the thread about fridge fan... as you mentioned temps while working on this camper. You are in slightly cooler climate than me, as I live in Kansas & it has been 103 or more for 2 weeks, and expect more to come.

Anyway, I replaced the single factory fan that was wired to 12v through a thermostat on the fridge coils, that I never heard or saw it work. I took the original fan out, replaced with 2 superquiet fans from Newegg computers online store. My modification was also, to a self installed toggle switch with the same 12v supply that the singe fan had, from battery, bypassing the thermostat on fridge coils, directly to a toggle that I turn on, and it runs all the time I have fridge in operation. This took my non functioning fridge to functioning.

My fridge is a 2 door unit (rm2611) (means it has freezer and fridge). before mod, when camping and temps remotely reached 90 degrees, My fridge would stop working, and all the fride repair people would tell me it was a bad $400+ cooling unit. I now assume because the back of the fridge area was getting too hot, no air circulation was happeing, to alow cooling on the inside. However, I have not camped yet, at above 90 degrees yet this year since doing the mod, but it still seems promising.

I have read on here, that the factory fan you will hear it run, if everything else is quite in the camper. the dual fans I bought, are quiet and I cannot hear them, plus they move a lot of air. ALso, the Fans I bought were going to be used in my computer case, & they came with speed controlers, which are integrated into the wiring, and which are not accessable in camper (cable too short to mount easily). But there are probably better ones that are always full speed... but I made it all work out ok, fans run full speed, and since you cant see in there, so the wires wont distract the average joe, lol. :)

dirtfan 07-24-2011 01:31 PM

Resealed a window last night and started tearing apart the roof today, this is the biggest challenge that I have seen so far

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...bb875e289b.jpg

dirtfan 07-24-2011 01:32 PM

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dirtfan 07-25-2011 09:08 PM

After opening up the roof from the inside yesterday and noticed the 1x1 that is between the frame and the roof is wet, so I took the razor knife and opened up most of the roof on the kitchen side, I would say that 3/4 of the wood is wet so it looks like I won't be using this in a week and a half, next step will be to the remove the piece that holds the wall and the roof together and peel back part of the roof to replace the wet wood, I can't access it from the inside as it is behind the steel frame

https://www.hilotrailerforum.com/atta...00099ff0a5.jpg

JackandJanet 07-25-2011 10:03 PM

The fact that wood is wet does not require it to be replaced. If the wood is not "rotted", it can be dried out and left in place. Even small rotted places can be repaired with a product like "Bondo", once the wood is dry.

Naturally, you need to locate and seal the source of the water leaks. But, you have to do that anyway.

I'd really try to use a fan powered heater and dry some of that before you start ripping things out.

- Jack

bluewindsue 07-25-2011 10:28 PM

repaired all aspect of big roof leaks.... did i say big
 
opened all the windows in good weather
ceiling paneling started drying out
i left it wide open for several days of dry hot weather
no fan

it was magical
the ceiling paneling pulled up from it's sad sagging state
within 20 day of good weather (it did rain 3 times) and three small screw
and no paint...it's good as new

you really just got to wait it out... but it will dry
wish i'd taken pics
but who knew....lol

love my new to me 87' funchaser


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