I just want to thank everyone that has helped us out with our first camper. We have camped in the past, but never experienced something like this. We have always wanted a camper and now with two young boys, it is the time. We bought our 1983 hi lo because we loved the idea of a hard camper that folded down, but we had no idea. After being part of this forum, we would have bought it just for you. To have a group of people so willing to help, especially in the world today is wonderful! Thank you all for making this such a wonderful experience.