new RISE is a 21st Century Hi-Lo - Hi-Lo camper travel trailer forum

thervexpert · 06-07-2014, 10:03 AM

I just saw information on a new trailer called the RISE. It is basically a 21st century Hi-Lo trailer. I am intrigued with the lift system that is hydraulic, but uses no cables.
It is made by TrailManor, I guess they realize the Hi-Lo design is really good! It does have a push button remote control that looks very cool.
I also like the floor plan, one even has a murphy bed.

RichR · 06-07-2014, 01:13 PM

I would have to see it before making any judgements.

Brookside1954 · 06-14-2014, 11:46 AM

I've been watching this. I was disappointed that it was planned as a 24' and shrank and when I saw the MSRP

and I'm not following so closely now. MSRP is like $32,000+ (I know they usually can go lower but still...) and with new technology, you just never know until they get "out" there. The dealer for our area is over 800 miles away and to most people in my area, the price would be

so I don't expect to see one unless we get a chance to take a road trip.

Dee Tillotson · 06-15-2014, 12:27 AM

Brookside, where did you dig up the information on the Rise's MSRP and length? It sounds like TrailManor not only wants first customers to be their lab test rats for this product, but also wants first customers' bank accounts, too. If anyone here gets to do a walk through in one, it would be nice if they would put a review on the Hi-Lo forum. We would be particularly interested in knowing details of the hydraulics technology.

Dee

Papa · 06-15-2014, 05:52 AM

Dee,
Check out the link below for the MSRP.

RISE Travel Trailers | TrailManor Website

Hope this doesn't get me kicked off the Hi Lo Forum? ha
Had to take a look see and would be curious as to how it goes up?
God Bless
Papa

Luckydog671 · 06-15-2014, 08:15 AM

Thanks for the link, Papa. Looks like Trail Manor is taking orders now so bears closer watching. Without knowing the weight specs, I'd be concerned with the single axle.

I noticed on the options tab that they offer a recirculating toilet. Having never heard of that, I found this You Tube video posted by a dealer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ZC1oGOBxA

Disclaimer: I am not associated in any way with this dealer!

notanlines · 06-15-2014, 08:51 AM

We have a very good friend who is a salesman at a large RV dealer which sold Hi-Lo's trailers/campers until Hi-Lo bit the dirt. He and his compadres insist the company simply priced themselves out of the market.

RichR · 06-15-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notanlines

We have a very good friend who is a salesman at a large RV dealer which sold Hi-Lo's trailers/campers until Hi-Lo bit the dirt. He and his compadres insist the company simply priced themselves out of the market.

My good friend was a HiLo dealer and knew all the Snyder family and many of the employees, including the owners of the two repair companies, Midget RV and Trailer Service, and J&R Repair, that are talked about here. In addition to your comment they got caught with the recession and there were some internal/family company problems that added to their wows. The marketing for HiLo did not change with many customers wanting bigger trailers with slideouts, etc. So there were a number of reasons.

My friend also sold Coleman/Fleetwood folding trailers, and as you probably know it went down the tubes because of a holding company business decision. It wasn't because there was no demand for the trailers. He was left with nothing to sell. The two companies basically ruined his business.

slider · 06-15-2014, 08:48 PM

I am guessing here but no cables could be as simple as a hydraulic ram at each lift point. It would be much more reliable perhaps than the cable and pulley setup but the downside may be more cost's involved to manufacture.

Rick

Norton Rider · 06-15-2014, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckydog671

I noticed on the options tab that they offer a recirculating toilet. Having never heard of that, I found this You Tube video posted by a dealer.

I had a recirculating toilet in my first RV, a 1972 Shasta motorhome. Interestingly enough it also had a small holding tank. The drill was to use it for a couple if days and open the valve to drain it to the holding tank. Then I would recharge with chemical and water an use for a few more days.

The advantage was that I could go more days between dumping than I can go with a regular RV toilet. The disadvantage was the foul smell, think of an older airliner without modern vacuum toilets. As a matter of fact the toilet in my Shasta was made by a company that made airplane recirculating toilets. This is one of the reasons that we got a hi-lo instead of a Trailmanor. Most, if not all, Trailmanors have recirculating toilets.

RichR · 06-16-2014, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slider

I am guessing here but no cables could be as simple as a hydraulic ram at each lift point. It would be much more reliable perhaps than the cable and pulley setup but the downside may be more cost's involved to manufacture.

Rick

I would be concerned with the separate hydraulic cylinders all moving at the same rate. If one thing went wrong there could be unequal pressure placed on the top and create a situation.

Luckydog671 · 06-16-2014, 08:26 AM

Just wondering if the person who started this thread is a Trail Manor dealer?

JackandJanet · 06-16-2014, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Luckydog671

Just wondering if the person who started this thread is a Trail Manor dealer?

Could be.... Looking at the "RISE", it sure looks like they borrowed a lot from HiLo, but what a weird interior layout!

I'd like to know for sure how the lift system works though. It COULD be a single ram with a rotating shaft that turns ratchet gears or something like that.

The remote up/down is kind of fun, but I hope they include a lockout to prevent accidental "butt lowering" when the trailer is set up for camping.

- Jack

Norton Rider · 06-16-2014, 01:26 PM

I for one like the fact that there is a new telescopic trailer choice in the market. The original Rise may spawn more trailers of this type from TrailManor, with different lengths and layouts.

RichR · 06-16-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Norton Rider

I for one like the fact that there is a new telescopic trailer choice in the market. The original Rise may spawn more trailers of this type from TrailManor, with different lengths and layouts.

Like many new products they will put them out on the market and the new owners will be the guinea pigs that will get stuck with the problems. Let them go for a couple of years before buying. Hilo did a bit of that over the years with the one model year models. No better way to test them.

Brookside1954 · 06-17-2014, 10:15 AM

I had started a thread earlier about the "Rise" and I'm not a dealer but thought it would be interesting to compare the dynamics with that of Hi-Lo. My husband worked with hydraulics for a number of years so I badgered him with questions. Generally, from what I have seen work in the past, the price starts out a little lower in order to get them out there so people see them and with a sort of understanding that some fine tuning might be necessary and then ease the price up. I worked in the office of what is a 5-star manufacturer that sells factory direct and that is how they started out with very good results. Superior customer service was their thing so it went very smoothly.

I am interested in everything "RV"! Have been since I was stationed at Elmendorf AFB in the mid-70's and saw the earlier Winnebagos there. I do love the classics though.

Luckydog671 · 06-17-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brookside1954

I had started a thread earlier about the "Rise" and I'm not a dealer but thought it would be interesting to compare the dynamics with that of Hi-Lo. My husband worked with hydraulics for a number of years so I badgered him with questions. Generally, from what I have seen work in the past, the price starts out a little lower in order to get them out there so people see them and with a sort of understanding that some fine tuning might be necessary and then ease the price up. I worked in the office of what is a 5-star manufacturer that sells factory direct and that is how they started out with very good results. Superior customer service was their thing so it went very smoothly.

I am interested in everything "RV"! Have been since I was stationed at Elmendorf AFB in the mid-70's and saw the earlier Winnebagos there. I do love the classics though.

Agreed- as far as I'm concerned the more competition in the RV industry, the better! Remember the lack of quality in the US auto industry starting in the 70's and how it vastly improved when the Japanese introduced better quality vehicles?

sam · 06-17-2014, 09:18 PM

Just wondering if HiLo has a patent on their lift system. How many years before the patent expires ? I'm trying to take good care of my HiLo so I don't have to buy another one any time soon.

hilltool · 06-18-2014, 08:21 AM

In the past patents usually ran 20 years.

miniceptor86 · 06-18-2014, 08:01 PM

32K! Not impressed, but it makes my 2404T look really good! If they used four lift cylinders how would they keep them all lifting at the same rate? Hydraulic fluid is going to take the path of least resistance. Any extra resistance at any corner would result in binding unless a really well made system of rollers track where used?

And what is wrong with pulleys? Not to hard or expensive to replace, at least the under frame ones.